Can I Install Tank Less Water Heater With Smaller Gas Pipe, Not 3/4″ Pipe Recommended By Manufacturer?
Posted on | November 28, 2009 | 3 Comments
I was ready to have tankless water heater installed by one company, but when i had the other plumber over for estimate, he said that we have to change the gas line to 3/4″ pipe to install tankless water heater. Who is right?
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3 Responses to “Can I Install Tank Less Water Heater With Smaller Gas Pipe, Not 3/4″ Pipe Recommended By Manufacturer?”
November 29th, 2009 @ 2:26 am
The manufacturer….no professional is going to install something like that against the manufacture recommendation….now if the manufacturer just recommends it and it’s not mandatory then there is a difference….this may depend on gas pressure, elbows, materials, and length of the pipe required.
These are things you neeed to look in to before you buy something like this. It’s like purchasing a new oven just to find out it’s going to cost $1000 for an electrician to hook up the wiring because your panel is undersized
November 29th, 2009 @ 5:47 am
depends on the tankless your using,, use to use takagi, and they usually burn at a rate of 199999 btu. Electrical is not a big deal just 110volt and low amps. You prob. need 3/4, in most cases a dedicated gas line from the meter is the norm. If its a long run of gas pipe you might need 1 inch. I cant think of 1 tankless install that didn’t need a dedicated gas line from the meter and not just branched out from a 1 inch main line running from the house. As far as energy savings, there good but you’ll never get your money back from the future maintenance and expsensive breakdowns.
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In order for a tankless water heater to heat enough water, fast enough for typical usage, it has to dump a huge supply of energy into the heat exchangers.
On a gas model, it needs a larger supply of gas than a tank style water heater. If you tried to use the smaller pipe, the heater will not be able to heat the water as much and so the output temperature will be lower. It depends on various factors to know whether that would be enough for your purposes.
We recommend tankless water heaters, but one drawback we note is that people often have to replumb their gas supply line. Also, if the unit will be indoors, it will likely require an upgrade to the vent system too. Burning all that natural gas creates a lot more carbon monoxide than the old vent can safely vent outdoors.
In my own home, not only did we have to replumb the gas supply line, we needed a larger gas meter and a larger gas line to the house. The utility paid for the upgraded gas line to the house, but I paid for the meter upgrade (a state imposed fee) and the local gas line. however, this was for a really big unit that allows two simultaneous showers and one appliance usage. That is a lot of hot water. We could have used a smaller unit and avoided some of the upgrade costs. We could have also used a smaller heater, one for each bath, that could have used smaller gas lines.
Bottom line, replumbing the gas supply line isn’t a big deal in cost terms. To get the full benefit from the tankless water heater it is worthwhile expense.